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Friday, January 26, 2018

This Civil War - My South Carolina Tea Party Convention Speech



(The following is the speech that I delivered this Sunday at the South Carolina Tea Party Coalition Convention in Myrtle Beach. My appreciation to Joe Dugan and everyone involved in organizing it and making it a reality once again. And to Don Neuen and Donna Fiducia of Cowboy Logic Radio for the introduction. And to anyone and everyone still fighting the good fight.)

This is a civil war.

There aren’t any soldiers marching on Charleston… or Myrtle Beach. Nobody’s getting shot in the streets. Except in Chicago… and Baltimore, Detroit and Washington D.C.

But that’s not a civil war. It’s just what happens when Democrats run a city into the ground. And then they dig a hole in the ground so they can bury it even deeper.

If you look deep enough into that great big Democrat hole, you might even see where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

But it’s not guns that make a civil war. It’s politics.

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.

That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

I know you’re all thinking about President Trump.

He won and the establishment, the media, the democrats, rejected the results. They came up with a whole bunch of conspiracy theories to explain why he didn’t really win. It was the Russians. And the FBI. And sexism, Obama, Bernie Sanders and white people.

It’s easier to make a list of the things that Hillary Clinton doesn’t blame for losing the election. It’s going to be a short list.

A really short list. Herself.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this.

The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like.

The left lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.

Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country.

The left’s system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If it’s in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited.

He’s a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.

A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him.

That’s how the game is played. That’s how our country is run.

When Democrats control the Senate, then Harry Reid and his boys and girls are the sane, wise heads that keep the crazy guys in the House in check.

But when Republicans control the Senate, then it’s an outmoded body inspired by racism.

When Democrats run the Supreme Court, then it has the power to decide everything in the country. But when Republicans control the Supreme Court, it’s a dangerous body that no one should pay attention to.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws.

Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land.

This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

There isn’t one guy in a room somewhere issuing the orders. Instead there’s a network of them. And the network moves around.

If the guys and girls in the network win elections, they can do it from the White House. If they lose the White House, they’ll do it from Congress. If they don’t have either one, they’ll use the Supreme Court.

If they don’t have either the White House, Congress or the Supreme Court, they’re screwed. Right?

Nope.

They just go on issuing them through circuit courts and the bureaucracy. State governments announce that they’re independent republics. Corporations begin threatening and suing the government.

There’s no consistent legal standard. Only a political one.

Under Obama, states weren’t allowed to enforce immigration laws. That was the job of the Federal government. And the states weren’t allowed to interfere with the job that the Feds weren’t doing.

Okay.

Now Trump comes into office and starts enforcing immigration laws again. And California announces it’s a sanctuary state and passes a law punishing businesses that cooperate with Federal immigration enforcement.

So what do we have here?

It’s illegal for states to enforce immigration law because that’s the province of the Federal government. But it’s legal for states to ban the Federal government from enforcing immigration law.

The only consistent pattern here is that the left decided to make it illegal to enforce immigration law.

It may do that sometimes under the guise of Federal power or states rights. But those are just fronts. The only consistent thing is that leftist policies are mandatory and opposing them is illegal.

Everything else is just a song and dance routine.

That’s how it works. It’s the moving dictatorship. It’s the tyranny of the network.

You can’t pin it down. There’s no one office or one guy. It’s a network of them. It’s an ideological dictatorship. Some people call it the deep state. But that doesn’t even begin to capture what it is.

To understand it, you have to think about things like the Cold War and Communist infiltration.

A better term than Deep State is Shadow Government.

Parts of the Shadow Government aren’t even in the government. They are wherever the left holds power. It can be in the non-profit sector and among major corporations. Power gets moved around like a New York City shell game. Where’s the quarter? Nope, it’s not there anymore.

The shadow government is an ideological network. These days it calls itself by a hashtag #Resistance. Under any name, it runs the country. Most of the time we don’t realize that. When things are normal, when there’s a Democrat in the White House or a bunch of Democrats in Congress, it’s business as usual.

Even with most Republican presidents, you didn’t notice anything too out of the ordinary. Sure, the Democrats got their way most of the time. But that’s how the game is usually played.

It’s only when someone came on the scene who didn’t play the game by the same rules, that the network exposed itself. The shadow government emerged out of hiding and came for Trump.

And that’s the civil war.

This is a war over who runs the country. Do the people who vote run the country or does this network that can lose an election, but still get its agenda through, run the country?

We’ve been having this fight for a while. But this century things have escalated.

They escalated a whole lot after Trump’s win because the network isn’t pretending anymore. It sees the opportunity to delegitimize the whole idea of elections.

Now the network isn’t running the country from cover. It’s actually out here trying to overturn the results of an election and remove the president from office.

It’s rejected the victories of two Republican presidents this century.

And if we don’t stand up and confront it, and expose it for what it is, it’s going to go on doing it in every election. And eventually Federal judges are going to gain enough power that they really will overturn elections.

It happens in other countries. If you think it can’t happen here, you haven’t been paying attention to the left.

Right now, Federal judges are declaring that President Trump isn’t allowed to govern because his Tweets show he’s a racist. How long until they say that a president isn’t even allowed to take office because they don’t like his views?

That’s where we’re headed.

Civil wars swing around a very basic question. The most basic question of them all. Who runs the country?

Is it me? Is it you? Is it Grandma? Or is it bunch of people who made running the government into their career?

America was founded on getting away from professional government. The British monarchy was a professional government. Like all professional governments, it was hereditary. Professional classes eventually decide to pass down their privileges to their kids.

America was different. We had a volunteer government. That’s what the Founding Fathers built.

This is a civil war between volunteer governments elected by the people and professional governments elected by… well… uh… themselves.

Of the establishment, by the establishment and for the establishment.

You know, the people who always say they know better, no matter how many times they screw up, because they’re the professionals. They’ve been in Washington D.C. politics since they were in diapers.

Freedom can only exist under a volunteer government. Because everyone is in charge. Power belongs to the people.

A professional government is going to have to stamp out freedom sooner or later. Freedom under a professional government can only be a fiction. Whenever the people disagree with the professionals, they’re going to have to get put down. That’s just how it is. No matter how it’s disguised, a professional government is tyranny.

Ours is really well disguised, but if it walks like a duck and locks you up like a duck, it’s a tyranny.

Now what’s the left.

Forget all the deep answers. The left is a professional government.

It’s whole idea is that everything needs to be controlled by a big central government to make society just. That means everything from your soda sizes to whether you can mow your lawn needs to be decided in Washington D.C.

Volunteer governments are unjust. Professional governments are fair. That’s the credo of the left.

Its network, the one we were just discussing, it takes over professional governments because it shares their basic ideas. Professional governments, no matter who runs them, are convinced that everything should run through the professionals. And the professionals are usually lefties. If they aren’t, they will be.

Just ask Mueller and establishment guys like him.

What infuriates professional government more than anything else? An amateur, someone like President Trump who didn’t spend his entire adult life practicing to be president, taking over the job.

President Trump is what volunteer government is all about.

When you’re a government professional, you’re invested in keeping the system going. But when you’re a volunteer, you can do all the things that the experts tell you can’t be done. You can look at the mess we’re in with fresh eyes and do the common sense things that President Trump is doing.

And common sense is the enemy of government professionals. It’s why Trump is such a threat.

A Republican government professional would be bad enough. But a Republican government volunteer does that thing you’re not supposed to do in government… think differently.

Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club.

And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.

Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That’s not a free country.

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win, won.

We’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and leftist professional government.

The pros have made it clear that they’re not going to accept election results anymore. They’re just going to make us do whatever they want. They’re in charge and we better do what they say.

That’s the war we’re in. And it’s important that we understand that.

Because this isn’t a shooting war yet. And I don’t want to see it become one.

And before the shooting starts, civil wars are fought with arguments. To win, you have to understand what the big picture argument is. It’s easy to get bogged down in arguments that don’t matter or won’t really change anything.

This is the argument that changes everything.

Do we have a government of the people and by the people? Or do we have a tyranny of the professionals?

The Democrats try to dress up this argument in leftist social justice babble. Those fights are worth having. But sometimes we need to pull back the curtain on what this is really about.

They’ve tried to rig the system. They’ve done it by gerrymandering, by changing the demographics of entire states through immigration, by abusing the judiciary and by a thousand different tricks.

But civil wars come down to an easy question. Who runs the country?

They’ve given us their answer and we need to give them our answer.

Both sides talk about taking back the country. But who are they taking it back for?

The left uses identity politics. It puts supposed representatives of entire identity groups up front. We’re taking the country back for women and for black people, and so on and so forth…

But nobody elected their representatives.

Identity groups don’t vote for leaders. All the black people in the country never voted to make Shaun King al Al Sharpton their representative. And women sure as hell didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton.

What we have in America is a representative government. A representative government makes freedom possible because it actually represents people, instead of representing ideas.

The left’s identity politics only represents ideas. Nobody gets to vote on them.

Instead the left puts out representatives from different identity politics groups, there’s your gay guy, there’s three women, there’s a black man, as fronts for their professional government system.

When they’re taking back the country, it’s always for professional government. It’s never for the people.

When conservatives fight to take back the country, it’s for the people. It’s for volunteer government the way that the Founding Fathers wanted it to be.

This is a civil war over whether the American people are going to govern themselves. Or are they going to be governed.

Are we going to have a government of the people, by the people and for the people… or are we going to have a government.

The kind of government that most countries have where a few special people decide what’s best for everyone.

We tried that kind of government under the British monarchy. And we had a revolution because we didn’t like it.

But that revolution was met with a counterrevolution by the left. The left wants a monarchy. It wants King Obama or Queen Oprah.

It wants to end government of the people, by the people and for the people. That’s what they’re fighting for. That’s what we’re fighting against. The stakes are as big as they’re ever going to get. Do elections matter anymore?

I live in the state of Ronald Reagan. I can go visit the Ronald Reagan Library any time I want to. But today California has one party elections. There are lots of elections and propositions. There’s all the theater of democracy, but none of the substance. Its political system is as free and open as the Soviet Union.

And that can be America.

The Trump years are going to decide if America survives. When his time in office is done, we’re either going to be California or a free nation once again.

The civil war is out in the open now and we need to fight the good fight. And we must fight to win.

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

We need a shooting war because our side is armed to the teeth and their side is a bunch of lying, cheating, scumbags who can't be trusted on anything because they have no morals or ethics and are looking to put us all in chains. That's worth a shooting war.

MMinLamesa said...

Imagine if Repubs were united like the dems. Trump is winning for us with millstones chained to him.

Dennis Latham said...

A perfect article that describes exactly what is happening. I've always called it the DC Cartel. What surprises is me is that most people don't know or care what's going on. Anyone who works should never vote Democrat again after they tried to tell workers that getting more take home money is bad for them. The Left thinks people are mere gerbils. Boy, were they wrong. You hit the problem right on the head with a big hammer. We can either be Venezuela or America. Sadly, I think it's going to take a shooting war to decide the issue.

VarAway said...

Amen!
Powerful article!
Thank you Sir!

MikeN said...

If only DJ Trump incorporated this in his state of the union address(with the proper attributes).

Unknown said...

Bravo.....

BudBromley said...

Outstanding and excellent. Thank you.

xtron said...

a simpler way of putting it is...
does the government work for us, or do we work for the government??

Anonymous said...

I am almost at a loss for words. These thoughts by David Greenfield reverberate with truth, logic and an unblinking view of Obamunism in America today. Bravo.

Anonymous said...

If TX goes blue the GOB will have to shift to the left and conservatism is finished. I am not sure it means we have a single party system, but it will mean we have a choice between two leftist parties.

The immigration debate is the single biggest issue. Democrats have turn the democratic process on its head. Instead of Americans deciding who our representatives are. They are choosing who Americans are. They are literally replacing the citizens of this country with illiberal Latin Americans and Arabs.

Flankspeed60 said...

Brilliantly articulated! The next article should define what it means to "fight the good fight." That begins with the realization that national elections in general and presidential elections especially, just don't matter. The bulk of government is unelected, largely leftist, deeply embedded, and beyond the reach of legal reform mechanisms. True reform can only come, and bloodshed avoided, through the collective actions of legislatures of sovereign states withdrawing support and funding of the Beast, bringing it to heel, and forcing it to resume its original subservient role.

Miklos said...

I think you are the clearest thinker on the net...defining the problem and its tidal wave potential.
But as with other conservative public notables (radio,tv,print,etc.} no one seems to take on the challenge of what should be done to counter the very effective left strategies. How do we create a strong counterpunch instead of just describing the problem. Since the tea party wave we have been continually on the defensive and the totalitarian left successfully on the attack. Trump is not an adequate answer, We are losing our freedom and seem to be incapable of finding the right leaders to mount an effective movement.

Anonymous said...

To Frank Speedo: Amen! You've recognized the hard reality. As to what to do...could readers of the Sultan form the heart of a counter movement?
And to Anonymous: A shooting war is a tragedy; not a hope. And in any case while the military was once considered right-wing, today it is led by co-opted careerists. Consider what happened with Trump's attempted ban on the transgendered.

Anonymous said...

Inescapable logic. Today's political situation explained. Lock and load.

Garrett Patterson said...

This is the organisation that Single-Handedly Re-Elected Lindsey Grahamnesty McShamnesty.
What assurance are they going to give us that this Amateur Hour Episode WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN???

Colorado Conservative said...

Daniel, THANK YOU for making this available. I sent it out widely asking others to share. Your video presentation was as profound and insightful as all of your writings. You are a blessing to America.

Tom Lahman said...

I spent the years 1978-1983 working at the world headquarters of the Arabian/American Oil Company (ARAMCO) Dhahran Saudi, Arabia. I worked with a number of CIA operatives who were embedded there. One who befriended me told me (Among other things that I didn't believe either) that the Republican & Democratic parties were on the verge of an agreement to alternate the Presidency at two term intervals. Since then, the only exception has been George I. I no longer vote in presidential elections but I continue to win handsome amounts of cash at every one!

NNtrancer said...

The Democratic Party has used the word "white" as a term of disparagement, especially when directed against White men. They've abandoned White males and have become the party of single women and "people of color", i.e., those dependent on government. They are not interested in what's best for America, they're in it for their own power. And so they try to import as many immigrants as possible and especially desire those who have no skills or have no ability to assimilate. They're the perpetually dependent. In a sense, the Democratic Party has ceased being an American political party and is, instead, an ideological movement whose origins lie in a very Marxist European model that resembles a new feudalism.

Anonymous said...

In the California federal senatorial election you could vote for anyone you wanted -- as long as they were Democrats, because they only choices on the ballot were two Democrats. A fact which reminds me a lot of Stalin's USSR, where you could vote for anyone as long as they were a member of the Communist party.

lpa said...

I hope Daniel told his SC audience to please, please, oust Lindsey Graham.

Lee Stokes said...

Read the article via a link from a Powerlineblog.com post by John Hindraker. A town Hall blogger wrote along similar lines in 2015 (link below). Unfortunately, I suspect we will need another civil war with guns and bloodshed to resolve the issues. Don't want to see it go that far, but as Mr.Schlicher notes below, that's where we're being pushed. And the Leftists don't see it coming. They're like the Antebellum South who thought the chivalry and rightness of the cause would overcome the industrial might of the North. In this case, Red state America has the guns and know-how the Leftist not only lack; but disdain.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2015/04/05/liberals-may-regret-their-new-rules-n1980933

Anonymous said...

We all feel it but no one else has put it so clearly. I'm using your analysis to help explain it to others. Thank you.

SidVic said...

It is time to start thinking about your red lines. Imagine if it is reported that the FBI has taken Trump into custody and that Pence is missing? Might be time to grab the gun and head to DC.

While i'm pretty sure he knows what he is up against-Hope someone gets this talk to Trump.

Jay Caines said...

you little right-wing cowards aren't gonna shoot anybody but yourselves. Hopefully in the head.

Achilles said...

This is going to get a lot of attention over the coming days and weeks.

This is the type of thing that starts a preference cascade.

OregonJon said...

Well said. But what was not said is that establishment Republicans - think Jeb et al - are every bit as much of the royalty as are any Democrat. That's how Trump was able to wipe the floor with their insipid whimperings about "experience" and "understanding" and so on and sickeningly on.

Jeb was recently heard whining about Trump's "character" as if in a civil war we care about the character of those who can destroy the other side. There are lots of things not to like about Trump. None of them matter when it comes to addressing the task at hand.

The task at hand is eternal. Elected officials, no matter how idealistic when first in office, will eventually see themselves as wiser and more experienced and better for the country than any upstart. Power is addictive. Real change will only come when a majority of Americans welcome the idea of a freely elected representative government. I do not see that day any where on the horizon or beyond.

Anonymous said...

It is very simple, and has been since at least the 80s. We either end (98% nonwhite) immigration, or immigration will end America (and literally due to how immigrants vote, and not just "definitionally", as the post-1965 INVASION is really an exercise in totalitarian population replacement, not merely benign "immigration"). Immigrants vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Immigration is WHY CA is a one party state. I have been warning of this since the early 80s, and have been called a "wayyycist" more times than I can recall (what is morally wrong [ans: nothing at all] with wanting to preserve the ethnocultural makeup of the nation?). If Trump sells us out on DACA (as it looks like he will do - he and the filthy GOP traitors), and those 3-5 MILLION Dreamers are the prelude to a "path to citizenship" for the remaining 30-35 MILLION illegal aliens - who in turn can bring in tens of millions more "family reunificationist" immigrants, THIS IS THE END OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IN NORTH AMERICA.

And our ancient fatherlands in Europe are being auto-genocided as well, in their case via mass importation of Muslim jihadis (oh, sorry, "rapefugees"). So what is really happening is the planned genocide of the White race.

This goes way beyond South Carolina.

Leon Haller

Bill Smith said...

The issue is; in this article, succinctly framed.

"Elections Matter"

"The Elected Govern!"

Anonymous said...

True!

Grizzly Joe said...

Met Donna Fiducia at CPAC 2016... almost fell over when she introduced herself! Was a legend for many years in NYC media market. Great stuff as always Dan 👍

Anonymous said...

I read the article, watched the video and then I read all the comments.

Anyone ever wonder why all we ever hear or talk about is unity and all we ever see in action is intolerance and hate.

Everyone sits and talks about how they are color blind, then immediately begin to attack one another based on skin color....

Sadly, a large portion of the population has no ability to think independently and apply common sense and discern on their own, they are sheep feed by a political machine with fuel from social and media outlets....

Thomas Jefferson once wrote that “democracy is too important a matter to be left to the people”.....

The Anti-Gnostic said...

Thankfully, you are not going to do any such thing. Why? You lack the guile and gumption to carry it out. I get it, you are upset, so you throw out there your fantasy.

Anonymous said...

I believe america started as a republic George Washington in the friendship treaty or begin with 1619 look at all that has been done the aboriginal of North West am exempt look at your congressionalrecord an people that genocide a nation of people on paper. You can not stand great on lies.an I AM aborginal.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for another excellent article Mr. Greenfield. Thanks for having the courage to tell the truth in a world full of highly paid liars.

Anonymous said...

I would have no problem accepting Trump as president if he had actually won. The fact is, he didn't win. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. As a California democratic voter, The Electoral College has twice disenfranchised me. Regardless of what the Founding Fathers may have intended, the Electoral College has become a gerrymandering fraud and a threat to democracy. Abolish it and elect our president the same way we elect all our representatives: by popular vote.

RAM said...

"What better evidence could there be that Trump is Putin’s puppet than that he’s standing up to him?"

People who can tell us with a straight face that every weather event, no matter how frigid, signals global warming can make this other farcical argument, too.

This mindset started from the need to explain away all the evils of socialism in action. These were all due to opposition to socialism, dontcha know!

FretlessT said...

This post was obviously written by a Russian Bot.

Dennis Latham said...

Anonymous Liberals always say that negative stuff about the electoral college until it is reversed in their favor during an election. Then they are all for it. That person just proved the point of the article.

Anonymous said...

All that Mr. Greenfield says is correct. But the good news is that now the b@$t@rd$ ARE out in the open, and they can be hit. Now is not the time to give up the fight -- it's time to double down. If they get Trump, they've won.

Anonymous said...

No. California needs to be cleaned out. Badly. It's currently in a state of open rebellion against the lawful government of the United States. It ought to have its statehood revoked until such time as it complies with federal law

Anonymous said...

Excellent presentation, except that I believe the Demms are not smart but extremely dishonest! They will promise anything or say anything to get control and then, like the Clintons, kill any dissent!!

Richard C. Moeur said...

I think Mr. Greenfield's argument is too broadly brushed, and contains some internal inconsistencies, but the basic premise of the "professional government" at odds with the citizens is absolutely on target. I've seen and experienced it firsthand, and found out speaking out against it can severely affect one's livelihood.

A few observations:

The people attacking the post aren't refuting or engaging it in any intellectual way - just simple insults and mockery a la Alinsky.

If the President and Vice President are "neutralized" and citizens immediately take to the streets in arms, I suspect the Federal agencies will be delighted - "easier to round up the troublemakers". Patience and resolve led through strong responses from states still loyal to the Constitution may be a wiser initial course.

I think that any cold civil war in the current US that does go hot won't resemble Antietam or Chancellorsville, but instead Kosovo or Northern Ireland a hundred times expanded. Not state against state, but street against street.

If the shooting does escalate past the current level of assassination attempts on conservative political figures, don't automatically assume the military will side en masse with one faction. Oaths are powerful, but so are orders. The armed services would likely split in much the same way as the citizens. And once that happens, every group and nation around the globe with an axe to grind and available weapons may see it as a green light to settle old and new scores, and the entire planet may be thrown into chaos or worse.

Am I arguing for surrender to the Control State? No - our childrens' children deserve better. But it's wise to look at the range of possible outcomes.

Bukulu said...

That's nonsense! First of all, because the electoral college IS how presidential elections are decided here, as it has been since the very first election that brought us George Washington is our first president.

And secondly, because there isn't another major Western nation that directly elect their head-if-government by a nationwide vite, either.

Anonymous said...

I don't think you want to test them.

There are about 10 million dedicated, well armed, militiamen ready to fight. About 1/3 of them are well-trained.

They outnumber all of law enforcement and active-duty military combined.

Many members of this group are law enforcement and active-duty military (possibly up to 1/2 of all law enforcement and active-duty military).

Anonymous said...

"I would have no problem accepting Trump as president if he had actually won. The fact is, he didn't win. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. As a California democratic voter, The Electoral College has twice disenfranchised me. Regardless of what the Founding Fathers may have intended, the Electoral College has become a gerrymandering fraud and a threat to democracy."

A typical post from an historically and politically ignorant Leftist. Bandolini's Law in action.

Anonymous said...

At what point does the protagonist in the civil war (the left) become a domestic enemy as in “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic”. This oath is taken by the military and every “officer” (FBI, DOJ, Congress, etc...).

Humphrey Dunphy said...

Just because you leftie soyboys are cowards doesn’t mean the rest of us aren’t.

Humphrey Dunphy said...

You are a LOSER. If you want the land back, then take it. It’s that simple. Otherwise STFU.

Humphrey Dunphy said...

And here you are, proving the authors point.

CherylT said...

Wow! Extremely powerful. It's the duty of every American to speak out against the Shadow Government. I've been complaining about career politicians for years. It's the reason Congress is broken. Please look into joining "The Convention of States." We The People can take back the power ceded to the federal government, and it's time to decentralize. Look at the monster we created.

JackIAm said...

Cali. has been the loser state for over 60 years. I had lived there for college, got out quickly. Deluded, confused, educated many, but all learned a special little left line with blinders on, so know very little or nothing of reality, of time and history. Imagination and delusion are there byways.
See this, for a short explanation: http://gop-tea-pub.tumblr.com/post/170131820302/the-brilliance-of-the-electoral-college-did-the
"In other words, these five counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote for the entire country." And "There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57."

There are numerous countless even more detailed and scholarly discussions and explanations about the working, reasons, and wisdom of the electoral college, which has more than once taken precedence.

It helps to make us more of a Republic form of government, more resistant to the takeover by a gang of sick and disturbed bullies, or just the bully gang, such as the self anointed Cali. seers of utopia, which never can exist, never has existed. Moreover, as I understand it, nearly all the utopia delusionists mostly live in the sea coast counties, and most of the inland rural and farm counties are far more grounded and conservative, not wild eyed, as most on the coastal counties.

God exists, the Creator, for those who do want utopia, the closest ever anyone will get! The electoral college works, well.

Education, the media, and other institutions, have been today corrupted mightily by those of zero morals, zero integrity, and no trust or honor.

We will have it back, way!


JackIAm said...

A learned glimpse into the educational system, from my earlier comment, among the worst corruptions of institutions, specifically in Cali., in these examples. VDH has honest inside knowledge, now speaking as an associate of The Hoover Institution. He brings honor to Hoover, not the reverse, IMO.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5CmXr0iRS4 Victor D. Hanson: How Universities Changed from the 60s on

Anonymous said...

You are also inarticulate.

Anonymous said...

You’re exactly right. The Republicans and Democrats are complicit in this undermining of the constitution and our system of government. Their only concern is for their own wallet. As mentioned in the speech “There’s all the theater of democracy but none of the substance.”

The right needs a thorough house cleaning, as does the left. In addition, people on the right need to take every opportunity to peacefully open the eyes of the left’s base and make them realize that they are about to lose all of their freedoms for the sake of a few paltry handouts by the left. They need to understand they are being played by the left.

Anonymous said...

You going to fire the first round down range at a human being? I’m a war veteran and I have a lot of equipment and weaponry. Only seriously damaged people love war.
Having said that, go ahead and snipe someone YOU think deserves it, see what happens.

True said...

Trump is going to have to take the lead here. It can't be by Tweets. Trump is going to have to get out in front of the cameras and call the Left out. I'm not even sure if Pence is on our side here. He's more of a creature of the professional class himself. But we can win if we start organizing and working together effectively. That takes leadership. There is only one person big enough to fill that role.

Tyrone Williams said...

Both parties are striving for dictatorship because that is the inherent flaw of a two party system. Perhaps we have outlived the two party system and would be better of with a parliamentary system. Anyway, given the current dynamics it seems that the democrats are more determined than the republicans to achieve a dictatorship given the facts surrounding the 2016 election. Now they are going after gerrymandering by republicans through the judicial system, and in one case the court will be deciding the congressional districts in one state. This is a clear judicial overstep by the courts into the separation of power. Gerrymandering is not fair and it can't be, the only arbiter is the election process and the state legislature, right or wrong the party that controls the state house gets to draw the districts. Because the democrats are losing state houses they are pursing a judicial solution which is not right. It's flawed, but you have to be willing to be competitive and win elections to gain the power to draw congressional districts.

Tom said...

Excellent!!! Great job there Mr. Greenfield. Never heard it described so succinctly. Thanks You!

Anonymous said...

How much does it bother all of you that Bush nor Trump won the popular vote?

Jeffre P. said...

This is why our time here among the living is limited. As we age, we see the world going to hell. "We" have been doing this for thousands of years. The "youth" have always been on a course with disaster.
This is a fork in the road, although I suspect others in the past have thought the same. This is not a "youth movement." This is a movement by otherwise intelligent and pleasant adults who actually think these policies are good for America. How any taxpaying adult can be a liberal, I don't understand. Of course, that goes a long way to explain their absolute lack of vision In realizing where these policies will lead The United States. Because we're not Europe. Or Asia. We're Americans, and we are our own people. Our forefathers, even my father and my brother sacrificed to keep our country striving to be better. They sacrificed to keep our ideals intact for their children, and beyond.
Now, there are people, large numbers of people, who want to change America. Change the basic principles upon which we were founded. To become more like somewhere else. Anything but unique. WE MUST CONFORM!!
It's so sad.
But, we will age, if we're lucky. And pass on, for sure. And I'm afraid the worst that we can imagine will eventually occur. But, we won't be here, and our great grandchildren won't know any different. And it will all be lost because people just don't get it.

Mary Francis said...

Thank you, Mr. Greenfield, you are right on. You are a true patriot.

John Thomas said...

God Bless America! We'll send flowers to the funeral, in the unlikely event we survive you. Love, the UK.

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