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THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A MAN WITH A GUN IS WITH A GUN

America now has its second worst mass shooting. And it, as usual, accompanied by calls for gun control. It's no coincidence that we have had quite a few spree killings in such a short time. The lavish coverage of every shooting by the media encourages every shooter to think that he will be famous if he goes out and kills. And that is exactly what happens.

Our shooters are creatures of the media, not the NRA. A media that turns killers into celebrities and then warns that the only way to stop more shootings is by cracking down on firearms.

But no amount of media coverage ever stopped a man with a gun. It only encouraged him. It takes a gun to stop a man with a gun. That is the hard truth of human affairs. It is why we have a Second Amendment, it is why we have armies and police, and it is why people own guns.

There is no going back to a time before people owned guns. There is no going back to a time when violence did not exist. There is only the reality that killers stalk the streets and that we can either defend against them or take comfort in empty outrage.

Guns stop shootings. Not all the time and not every time, but they do. Gun control does not. Media coverage calling for gun control does not.

Gun crime was up 35 percent in the UK which has harsh gun control laws. And Europe has had plenty of its own school massacres.

"Figures showed the number of crimes involving handguns had more than doubled since the post-Dunblane massacre ban on the weapons, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871."

Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children in the Dunblane school massacre in 1996 using 4 handguns.

In Germany, in the Winnenden school shooting in 2009, Tim Kretschmer, killed 16 people, including 9 students. In the Erfurt massacre in 2002, Robert Steinhäuser killed 16 people with a handgun and a shotgun.

In Finland, in the Jokela school shooting of 2007, Pekka-Eric Auvinen killed 8 people.In the Kauhajoki school shooting, Matti Juhani Saari killed 10 people.

The media will pretend that this sort of thing only happens in America. It doesn't only happen in America. It happens where killings do.

Gun control isn't about putting an end to horrors, it's about controlling people. And people who are used to being controlled have even less ability to cope with the uncontrolled and the uncontrollable.

Regulators think about the big picture. They don't think about the individual. They think only about how to control people who follow rules. But shooters, by definition, do not follow rules. They are men who have stepped outside the system and care nothing for its rules. They want to kill, and they will find a way. And when they come, the only way to stop a gun is with a gun.





IF YOU NEEDED A REASON TO BE HOPEFUL ABOUT SYRIA...

Obama is inviting Sheikh Mouaz Alkhatib of the Muslim Brotherhood, current head of the Syrian rebels, to Washington, who has expressed pro-Israel opinions in the past, such as writing that one of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s positive legacies was “terrifying the Jews.”

Sheikh Mouaz Akkhatib got his invite a few days after the Sheikh defended Al Qaeda. Because defending Al Qaeda is what it takes to get a Washington invite these days.

“We’ve made a decision that the Syrian Opposition Coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the Syrian population, that we consider them the legitimate representative of the Syrian people in opposition to the Assad regime,” said Obama.

But it’s not inclusive enough for Sheikh Mouaz Alkhatib who thinks Obama is a spoilsport for not recognizing Al Qaeda.

“The logic under which we consider one of the parts that fights against the Assad regime as a terrorist organization is a logic one must reconsider,” Al-Khatib told reporters in Marrakesh, Morocco.

What could possibly go wrong? If the Syrian rebels don't win, it will be a real tragedy. For the ghost of Osama bin Laden, currently haunting a Holiday Inn in Marrakesh.




CATHOLICPHOBIA SWEEPING THE NATION

The FBI’s hate crimes statistics actually show a slight decrease in Anti-Muslim hate crimes, but a significant increase in Anti-Catholic hate crimes which jumped from 4.2 percent to 5.2 percent.

Anti-Protestant hate crimes rose from 3.3 percent to 3.7 percent. Hate crimes targeting atheists fell from 0.5 to 0.3.

I wonder what this increase in anti-Catholic attacks could be attributed to? Paging Sandra Fluke.




DICTATORS ALL THE WAY DOWN

On a cold winter’s day, two years later, Obama celebrated the fall of Mubarak by proclaiming that “the people of Egypt have spoken, their voices have been heard, and Egypt will never be the same.” Now one year later, in the teeth of another winter, an Islamist winter, Egypt seems very much the same.

Obama pledged to create a new beginning by ending, in the name of democracy, the old policy of supporting dictators, only to inaugurate a brand new policy of supporting dictators in the name of democracy. The ritual democratic elections led to the same place that they did in Iraq and the Palestinian Authority. And now Obama is forced to support a dictatorship in order to support democracy.

The world may not rest on turtles or infinite universes, but the Middle East does rest on dictators and no amount of new beginnings has changed that. Pull back one dictator and another pops up in his place. Hold elections, plan regime change, send in your activists or your warplanes, and when the dust settles and all the democracy dreamers are congratulating themselves on having pulled off a successful election, the new dictator steps out from behind the curtain to give his acceptance speech, impose martial law and begin rounding up dissidents.

...from my article "It's Dictators All The Way Down"




SECOND TERM JAM

Rice has gone down, triangulated by Republicans and Clintonists. Rice got her job by betraying Hillary. Now she lost her dream job because she betrayed Hillary. In D.C. what goes around comes around and with Hillary being tipped for 2016, Rice's career odometer is looking really bad.

But the Rice withdrawal is also beginning to make the second term blues come out early. Second terms is usually when administrations at any executive level begin to jam up and come apart. And there are small signs that Obama Inc. is headed for the second term blahs.




IF IT'S GOOD FOR DETROIT, IT'S GOOD FOR AMERICA

Some public school teachers in the City of Detroit and around the state of Michigan are reportedly taking a vacation or a sick day today to protest right-to-work legislation likely to be approved by the state legislature.

Detroit public-school eighth graders do even worse in math than they do in reading, according to the Department of Education. While only 7 percent scored highly enough on the department’s National Assessment of Educational Progress test in 2011 to be rated “proficient” or better in reading, only 4 percent scored highly enough to be rated “proficient” or better in math.

But come on, that doesn't mean that Detroit teachers should lose their tiny pitiful paychecks, just because only 4 percent of their students can count and only 7 percent of their students can read.

Does it?

So what do Detroit teachers get paid in exchange for a 4 percent and 7 percent success rate?

The Detroit metropolitan area has the highest average public school teacher pay among metropolitan areas for which data are available, at $47.28 per hour, followed by the San Francisco metropolitan area at $46.70 per hour, and the New York metropolitan area at $45.79 per hour.

Poor bankrupt Detroit pays teachers more than San Fran and NYC, cities that have actual money. The average teacher’s salary in Detroit is $71,031.

 Sadly though Detroit has more teachers than students because there is uh a mass exodus underway.

Detroit Public Schools had 5,029 full-time teachers and 88,774 students in 2009-10, according to the Michigan Department of Education. But DPS officials estimate that there will be 58,517 students enrolled in 2014.

Good news everybody. One day Detroit will finally achieve a one student to one teacher ratio. And if that doesn't get the scores up to 7 and 5 percent, I don't know what will.




MILITANT ISLAMIST LEADER ABANDONS TERRORISM, FOCUSES ON CONSTRUCTION

“Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan.

Outside Sudan, Mr Bin Laden is not regarded with quite such high esteem. The Egyptian press claims he brought hundreds of former Arab fighters back to Sudan from Afghanistan, while the Western embassy circuit in Khartoum has suggested that some of the ‘Afghans’ whom this Saudi entrepreneur flew to Sudan are now busy training for further jihad wars in Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt.

Mr Bin Laden is well aware of this. ‘The rubbish of the media and the embassies,’ he calls it. ‘I am a construction engineer and an agriculturalist. If I had training camps here in Sudan, I couldn’t possibly do this job.’

That was from 1993. I wonder how many news stories from 2023 will boggle our minds with their complete willful denial of reality.




LIVING THE LIFE OF MOHAMMAD

Mohammad Safi is a lucky man. Graduate of a medical school in Afghanistan, Safi took in $822,302, or five times more than Governor Jerry Brown, working at a mental hospital.

As California’s top public employee, Mohammad Safi logged so many hours that all the clocks melted, Dali style. In 2006, Safi was making a mere $90,682 starting salary, but not long after he was taking home more than $503,000 in on-call pay for every hour he spent hanging around in a motel somewhere near the hospital.

But we really need to crack down on obscene CEO compensation at taxpayer expense. And Mo isn't a unique overachiever. California is full of dedicated public employees collecting so much overtime that prosperity is just another tax hike and bankruptcy away.

California may be sliding toward bankruptcy, but its state employees have been raking in the gold with nearly 1 billion in overtime.

In Micronesia, Somalia and the British Virgin Islands, 1 billion dollars is their entire GDP. But in California, 1 billion dollars is overtime.
But fortunately there's a solution in sight.

Legislation introduced Tuesday would give about 400,000 undocumented immigrants in California the same rights as citizens to unemployment benefits and various other government services.

Hello Mega-Quake? I think it's time now..




FORGET AL QAEDA, BEWARE OF CHRISTIAN AND BUDDHIST TERRORISTS

The song remains the same. In the year 2030, Islamic terrorism will be over and we'll all be fighting raging armies of Christians and Hindus.

The National Intelligence Council answers to the Director of National Intelligence who was the bright fellow who edited Al Qaeda out of the CIA Benghazi talking points. So it’s no wonder that he’s also managed to edit Islamic terrorism out of the world in 2030. The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

But with Muslim terrorism gone by 2030, the NIC is on top of the next big terror threat.

“Taking a global perspective, future terrorists could come from many different religions, including Christianity and Hinduism. Right-wing and left-wing ideological groups – some of the oldest users of terrorist tactics – also will pose threats.”

Forget Muslim terrorists, it’s time to focus on those Christian and Hindu terrorists. And then the Buddhist and Amish death squads.

Folks, we’re looking at a trend of Chassidic Jewish suicide bombers, Jainists ramming planes into London Bridge and Bahai states working to develop nuclear weapons.

Unitarian bus bombers are a real possibility and we can’t rule out 7th Day Adventist snipers on every roof in Baltimore. And when the Secular Humanist junta takes over Bali and begins implementing secular law, then no woman will be safe.

These are the real threats we need to focus on, instead of wasting time worrying about the mythical problem of Muslim terrorism.

I even hear Osama bin Laden is abandoning terrorism and turning to construction.




IT'S OBAMA'S WORLD, WE JUST LIVE IN IT

Head of Obama Jobs Council: “Communism Works”

UN Official Arrested for Aiding Al Qaeda

Muslim Brotherhood Propoganda Event in New York Explodes into Violence

Morsi Coming to Visit Obama in 2013

73% of New Jobs in Last 5 Months are in Government

Food Stamp Use 50% Higher Under Obama Than Under Bush

Obama Training Syrian Rebels to Secure Syrian WMDs

 High School Principal Claims Indians Were Scalped at Thanksgiving

“We must very, very, very, very understanding to our Native Americans, who lost and sacrificed because of the scalping that took place on Thanksgiving. They were invited to a dinner, and then their lives were taken from them.”

Egypt’s Top Judge Wants to Chop Off the Hands of Thieves

The judges have a burning desire to instate shari’a laws regarding Islamic hudud punishments… When shari’a laws are implemented, they leave no room for bargaining. Any country that refrains from implementing these punishments is lacking in many ways. 
Muslim Country With 25% Slave Population Elected VP of UN Human Rights Council

Obama Promises Terrorists That He Will Stop Israeli House Construction

Jordanian King Abdullah II conveyed U.S. assurances to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas that Washington will not allow a new Israeli settlement plan to pass, a Palestinian official said Thursday.

How the EPA is Making it Harder for You to Afford a Burger


Obama Backed Muslim Takeover of Cote d’Ivoire Leads to Campaign of Violence Against Gays

Victims said they immediately noticed a difference under Ouattara compared to the Gbagbo years, when such abuses were not nearly as extreme or widespread.

Ouattara signed a decree creating the FRCI in March 2011, and it was composed primarily of members of the New Forces rebel group, which used to control Côte d’Ivoire’s predominantly Muslim north.

Victims almost uniformly attribute the attacks to the fact that many soldiers in the new army are Muslim.

During one attack in Abidjan’s Zone 4 district in July, Raissa said a soldier invoked the Quran in justifying the violence.

“He said, “in the Qur’an it says that when you kill a homosexual you go to heaven,’” she recalled.

There are just so many ways for Muslims to go to heaven. But if Muslims ever do succeed in killing all non-Muslims, how will they ever get to heaven?



UNDER THE BOXTHORN TREE

For Muslims the boxthorn tree is their botanical metaphor for the Jews, but for Israelis their own self-chosen botanical metaphor is the prickly pear. Both are thorny plants at home in the desert and more than capable of protecting themselves in that harsh environment. For Muslims the Jew is a tree that must be torn out of the soil, but the Jew in Israel sees his people becoming trees whose roots hold fast to the soil of a revived land.


AND SPEAKING OF BOOKS

...here's an excerpt from Edward Cline's new novel. Cline is the author of the Sparrowhawk series and here in "We Three Kings" he takes us to an entirely different milieu where "the "three" kings are Fury, the hero; Sheik Quamisi, and Wade Lambert, a NYPD homicide detective taken hostage by the sheik."

Quamisi frowned. “You are not a man of God, Mr. Fury?”

Fury smiled. “I don’t even worship the false ones.”

“That makes you the universal infidel,” said Quamisi, who then laughed. He smiled generously at Fury. “Truly a man of the world, with no eye on the next one. And he knows this world.” A distant, speculative look came to the sheik’s face. “A formidable man,” he added. “I must thank you for accepting the invitation, Mr. Fury. You have been the sole bright note in what has been a tedious evening.”

“I didn’t come here to celebrate,” said Fury.

“I imagine not. But it is difficult to fit you into the familiar categories. I confess I am at a loss.”

“Stephen Crenshaw,” Fury said. “Queen Una and the Hall of the Firmament.”

“Yes,” said Quamisi tentatively. “I understand from Mr. Dean that you do not wish to sell the coin in question for any figure. I am certain now that your words are not mere sales strategy. I would make you an extremely high offer for it, but I feel that it would simply be adding zeroes to zeroes.”

“Mr. Dean’s been dirtying his hands lately,” remarked Fury.

Delight spread over Quamisi’s face. “You know something of our attitudes, Mr. Fury! What a pleasant surprise!”

“The dirt on Mr. Dean’s hands is not the usual kind, gotten through honest work.”

“Truly cosmopolitan!” exclaimed Quamisi. “Tell me: What is your view on the state of the world today?”

Fury sighed. “I don’t do soliloquies on the obvious.”

“Poor Mr. Crenshaw,” said Quamisi.

“Not so poor,” replied Fury.

Quamisi shrugged and permitted himself a smirk. “If one man owns a handful of marbles, and another the quarry from which they came before being encased in glass, I will not quibble over the issues of scale.”



AND THE ROUNDUP

Director Blue has the union numbers rounded down to the penny. Here's a tidbit.

Financial Information

    Annual Dues Paid to Unions: $8,209,113,955
    Total Union Assets: $8,775,962,626
    Total Spending
        Representational Activities: $4,074,510,945
        Political Activities: $582,248,875
        External Contributions: $333,982,197
        Overhead: $3,914,513,501
    Unions that fail to pass Department of Labor audits: 92%

Someone has to defend the "middle class".


IT'S ALL IN THE NUMBERS

....from a comment on American Digest

They'll keep track of how often you help them. The compliant ones, who respond to their pleas, will soon start getting bennies. And who the heck is paying for all this? Shoot, no one had the courage to sue them when they were laundering millions in illegal foreign money during both elections. The Courts and the constitutional lawyers mewled that "nobody has standing to sue". Now that they are beyond the reach of election law, the money just magically appears. None dare call it treason.

Like a pusher or a pimp, they'll next try to get you to graduate to the "hard stuff": direct action. Please, they'll say, we really need your help, show up at this time and place to help the Usurper. They'll loan you a t-shirt to wear (and ask you to buy it). The leaders will have special shirts, and campaign-style buttons, and perhaps cute little hats. And you'll go where you're told, and do what you're asked to. They'll bus you there and give you a stipend. You're One of Them now.

And if you keep answering their call, you go higher on the "One of Us" list, and qualify for more bennies. Free phones, debt forgiveness, extra ration cards. Chevy Volts at an unheard of discount.

Watch for it.

The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets. Uniforms. Insignia. The hats aren't so cute anymore. You'll be part of the team now, the core of the Usurper's civilian national security force. And you'll go where you're told, and you'll do what you're told, because the bennies keep coming, and you're in for a penny, in for a pound. 



IT'S OBAMA'S PARTY AND HE'LL ACCIDENTALLY ARM ASSAD IF HE WANTS TO

Meanwhile, actual Iranian tankers are shutting off their automated reporting systems as they approach Libya, and leaving them off until they have departed Libyan ports.  Peripheral evidence of this has been noted by journalists like Claudia Rosett (I wrote about it here), but the analysis reported by Reuters on 7 December provides the first specific confirmation that Iranian ships are shutting their Automated Information Systems (AIS) off to avoid being tracked into and out of Libyan ports.

The likelihood that arms have been shipped from Libya to Syria by this method is high enough to be considered a certainty – and, of course, the arms would have gone to Bashar al-Assad.  He is Iran’s protégé, and Iranian solicitude for Syrian shipping is devoted to bolstering his chances.  The irony here is obvious, as there have also been plenty of reports of arms shipments from Libya to the Syrian rebels, some of which may have been facilitated by the US mission in Benghazi.  The possibility that arms for Libya also got packed off to Assad himself cannot be discounted.

...from J.E. Dyer at Optimistic Conservative




THE PLANET, IT ISN'T MELTING

Breaking news from the US – h/t Watts Up With That? – where a leaked draft of the IPCC's latest report AR5 admits what some of us have suspected for a very long time: that the case for man-made global warming is looking weaker by the day and that the sun plays a much more significant role in "climate change" than the scientific "consensus" has previously been prepared to concede.

Here's the killer admission:

    Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

That's a rather fancy way of saying... it was the sun. Now all that the environmentalists have to do is fulfill man's greatest dream by putting out the sun.

Comments

  1. Ciccio14/12/12

    When you refer to the rise in gun crime in the UK you must bear in mind that these figure are AFTER ALL Legally owned handguns were confiscated. Seems that last gun crime prosecution was that of a farmer in an isolated farmhouse who shot at a pair of burglars - with some 20 previous convictions - after they violently broke into his home in the middle of the night.

    On the subject of Detroit they recently published some statistics about their public libraries, it cost them about $35 per item loaned out.

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  2. Anonymous14/12/12

    The sadness of today is compounded only by the studied fantasy of the anti-gun crowd. Daniel's title states the simple, common sense truth. A few voluntarily armed citizens represent the first line of defense to terrorists and madmen who invade "gun free" zones. Liberal rubrics assure only that such areas are free of defensive, life-saving guns. "Law enforcement" arrives in time to preserve the crime scene and precisely measure the blood spatter.

    More importantly, the hysterics ignore one of history's main practical lessons: at least 100 times as many citizens (previously disarmed) have been murdered by their own governments in the 20th century than were killed by criminals. This is scrupulously documented in "Death By Government." Although, as a rabid liberal, he is surely impervious to empirical evidence, maybe I'll send Mayor Bloomberg a copy. He would also be among the first to say, "It couldn't happen here!"

    Civil Westman

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  3. VA_Rancher14/12/12

    SFMEDIC,

    I believe I am now there... I have my carry permit, but its big and bulky and I rarely actually carry in public...

    But I could not live with myself if I had been there, with permit, and unarmed...

    The "show" is in town this weekend, I'm going to start taking steps to be a better sheepdog...

    God Bless you sir.

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  4. VA_Rancher15/12/12

    "THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A MAN WITH A GUN IS WITH A GUN"

    Daniel,

    There is SO MUCH TRUTH in what your words say here... Too bad the Liberals and Progressives are immune to the truth.

    God Bless you sir, keep fighting the good fight.

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  5. "22 children slashed by knife-wielding adult at elementary school in China..."

    Does this mean we will have to forfeit all sharp instruments as well?

    What about baseball bats? Bombs?

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  6. Anonymous15/12/12

    BATF death count...76, including 17 children at Waco compliments of Janet Reno and Bill Clinton. 200+/- (number of children unknown) in Mexico thanks to Fast and Furious and Eric Holder. Number of ATF agents and supervisors sentenced to prison terms...ZERO.

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  7. As senseless and sad as this latest excursion into madness is, the fact remains that the 2nd Amendment was written into the Constitution, by the Founders, to limit the chances of a tyrannical dictator taking power thru force.
    When the left begins the usual chant for more gun control and eventual
    confiscation,
    I'm always reminded of the old bumper snicker, " Guns don't
    murder people, pathetic, sick assholes do"....
    Not law abiding gun owners....

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  8. I watched Obama speak about the shootings yesterday and couldn't help but think when he raised his finger to his eyes that it was a signal to someone that he was lying. I know that's horrible to think, but that is how I mistrust Liberals. It was horrible at that school, and will probably destroy the lives of those who have to deal with the bodies of those children. Making a political anti-gun issue out of a psycho's behavior does nothing but create more room for another psycho. I kept thinking of the show where they had a woman in Hiroshima who was the only survivor out of her school of 300. How was it ever totally acceptable, even during war, to destroy 160,000 civilians in one flash of death? Was it any less psychotic? The logic of the world defies any logic.

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  9. Anonymous15/12/12

    This Lanza kid ended 27 of innocent lives. Weapon: Guns.

    Timothy McWeigh ended 162+ lives in Oklahoma city bombing. Weapon: Fertilizer and a truck.

    Mohammad - not the prophet - Atta guy, ended over three thousand lives on 9/11.
    Weapon: Passenger jets.

    Conclusion: All these tragedies caused by the Worms living as humans. Weapons used reflected only the size of death toll.

    We have embraced a culture of decaying morals:
    separating Religion from individuals,
    promoting/tolerating homosexuality,
    facilitating sex at ever younger age,
    removing any guilt from killing babies (Abortions),
    raising babies without men in their lives,
    producing babies with artificial insemination via nameless sperm donors,
    violence everywhere - Movies, TV, Video games, Cartoons, Comic books,angry protests,.....

    And when a tragedy like Newtown strikes, supposedly a First World society is scratching heads, searching for answers!

    I bet no one is studying to see if removal of "God bless America" from our lives have any bearing on such tragedies.

    Take away the guns from the crazy's hands and I am absolutely sure that they will surprise the so-called brainiacs with never-before-heard-of ways to achieve their 15 minutes of fame.

    Sad thing is, there are many crazies still at large waiting their turn.

    I wish modern medicine finds ways to detect future crazies in a fetus. That's one abortion I am willing to live with.

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  10. "Forget Muslim terrorists, it’s time to focus on those Christian and Hindu terrorists. And then the Buddhist and Amish death squads"

    Of course. It's the quiet ones we have to worry about not the Islamic terrorists making their threats openly and keeping their promises to carry them out.

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  11. I would be careful a out that UK number. It is from 2003. However, it is interesting that the 2011 statistics show that there were 11,227, which is still more than the 2003 number (9,974) and 2002 number (7362). And that represents more than the 600% increase (if my math is right,MIT represents a 781% increase).

    A later article found that in the decade after Dunblane laws, the British have seen an 89% increase in gun related crime. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html).

    What's even more interesting is that there has been no change in the rate of gun related homicides. Since 1995, pre-Dunblane, it's remained .1 per 100,000 (with the exception of 2001 when it rose to .2 per 100,000).

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  12. Anonymous22/12/12

    For anyone who has an opinion on gun control (doesn't everyone these days) and wants the facts, I recommend an excellent piece that was published in the Harvard Law journal (not exactly a right wing bastion of conservative culture) Very comprehensive & well documented.
    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

    Greg

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