Let me say first of all that I respect the different sites involved in this and I link to most or all of them. In many ways what we're seeing is not so much an ideological split, as a split between America and Europe, because as I wrote before, America and Europe face two different conflicts.
In WW2, Nazism was an abstract for Americans but a reality for Europeans. Then as now, many Europeans collaborated with the enemy and weak Europeans governments paved the way for the Nazi war machine. America was able to sweep in and save the day, mainly because America was not compromised by either Communism or Fascism. Americans could ride in on a great white horse because they were free of having to choose one or the other. Americans did not have to choose Fascism or Communism or face being squashed between the two. They could simply be Americans and be on the right side.
Today, Islam is an abstract even for those Americans who like LGF'ers are vigorous campaigners against Islamofascism. It's something they read about and something they know about, but unless they live in Europe, in Israel or in one of the few places in the United States that are Islamicised, such as Dearborn, it's not something that is truly real for them. That's not the case in Europe.
The threat of Islam to America consists of terrorist attacks, attacks that can kill thousands, maybe even millions. As bad as that is, the threat of Islam to Europe is simply annihilation. Take a look at Turkey and then imagine that as a European country. That's what Europe faces as its most inevitable scenario. That's not what America faces. America will never have an Islamic majority. A number of European countries are already near the point where the majority of their population under 18 is Muslim.
The key threat of Islam to America is terrorism. The key threat of Islam to Europe is complete conquest. Let's get that straight.
The kinds of methods propounded at LGF can be enough to deal with Islam's threat to America, but they won't save Europe. Conservative European governments in France and Holland are already cracking down on Imams, beefing up law enforcement and criticizing Islam, demanding secularization. And all of that looks good in headlines but amounts to nothing more than keeping the lid on, until the pot boils over.
A European country with an Islamic majority will not remain European. It will become Islamic. It doesn't matter what laws you pass, it doesn't matter how often ministers yell at Imams or what changes they make to the curriculum. With the Islamization of Turkey, there is no such thing as a secular Muslim country. EuroMuslim countries won't be the exception to the rule. Trying to subdivide moderate Islam from regular Islam or fighting something called Islamofascism won't work.
In the end a European country with a Muslim majority will either become South Africa, a dictatorship where a European minority desperately tries to maintain the character of the country against swelling protests and terrorism, or it will simply become Turkey or Malaysia. There is only one third option and it is not one that LGF or most American conservatives will countenance but one that is inevitable for both the salvation of Israel and Europe. Deportation.
No nation can survive with a hostile majority or even a large hostile minority. Americans have generally been understanding of the situation Israel faces. Europe is perhaps two decades or even less behind the curve on Israel. France already has its own Intifada. So does Holland. The problem is not as simple as kicking out a few Imams or putting more police on the street. It is a clash of civilizations and a clash of two nations. The problems are not racial, but neither are they simply cultural. They are national. And the only solution is an exchange of populations.
India and Pakistan ended their fratricidal bloodshed by such means. France went home from Algeria, but Algerians insist on remaining in France. Jews left the Arab lands, but Arabs insist on remaining in Israel. The situation is unworkable and there is only one hope for national survival in these nations. Deportation.
Any Muslim in the country illegally or without permanent citizenship, should be deported. Any Muslim in the country who has more than one wife, who has harbored illegal immigrants or committed fraud in bringing relatives to the country, should be deported.
Any Muslim in Europe belonging to a mosque on record as promoting terrorism or the overthrow of the national government and its replacement by an Islamic one, should be deported along with their entire family. Any Muslim who refuses to follow local laws or who lives outside the law, should be deported. Any Muslim belonging to a mosque which refuses to renounce and utterly reject the Islamization of the country and attacks on native Europeans by Muslims, should be deported.
It's not a solution, but it's a start. In the end the all too American LGF is uncomfortable with European and Jewish nationalists who recognize that national survival is tied to national integrity. Americans have the luxury of refusing to understand that and damning those who propound it. But no luxury lasts forever. Habla Espanol?