Comments on Sultan Knish: Should We Support or Oppose Iran's June Revolution...

To Sultan Thanks. And, Lemon has a good point,...

2009-06-23T18:24:06.058-04:00

To Sultan

Thanks.

And, Lemon has a good point, because when the dog is attacking itself, it can't be stalking me.

To YTBA "Do you mean like a dog biting itself fo...

2009-06-23T16:48:06.095-04:00

To YTBA

"Do you mean like a dog biting itself for biting itself?"

There are plenty of political parallels, including the Soviet analogy again. Or the Reformation.

Power within the Muslim world means one of the three, tribal, national or religious. Religious is obviously the strongest, especially in Iran which includes far more nationalities than just the Persians.

For most of the key players, the fight is about using Islam for their own personal political power. The reformers want to change the system to benefit themselves, the conservatives want to retain power. Both rally their followers in the name of Islam, since Islam is the justification for holding power in the first place from the days of Khomeini.

I don't support anything those people do in any wa...

2009-06-23T16:39:27.121-04:00

I don't support anything those people do in any way.
They are all nuts, all bad, all wrong.
I will not aid them even with good thoughts.
G-d put a tyrant over them, let them deal with it.
For what those persian/arabs have done to the Jewish people throughout history I would not care if the entirety of Iran sunk into the mud and died.

If they were a democracy I would still spit on it.
There is nothing they can do to be good in my eyes. Nothing.

"...paradoxically the fight is over restraining Is...

2009-06-23T16:38:44.023-04:00

"...paradoxically the fight is over restraining Islamic power as embodied in the regime's domestic authority"

Do you mean like a dog biting itself for biting itself?

I quite agree. The protests have taken great care ...

2009-06-23T16:34:10.301-04:00

I quite agree. The protests have taken great care to position themselves on the Islamic side of things, with Mousavi talking about martyrdom, and screams of Allahu Akbar, and obviously the use of Green

political power within Iran as an Islamic Republic, means Islamic power

at this juncture at the least

but at the same time paradoxically the fight is over restraining Islamic power as embodied in the regime's domestic authority

The current Iranian regime is evil, and our cipher...

2009-06-23T16:11:14.695-04:00

The current Iranian regime is evil, and our cipher-in-chief is not only useless, but a hindrance (at best) to progress. That said, I have a few sobering thoughts on Iran’s “green” revolution…

I am cross posting this from comments I made on a few other blogs…

When they choose another color as their symbol, then, …..m a y b e, just maybe, I might think their leader would be better than OddMashugahJob. But, till then, please note that “The Color of Islam is Green”

“The color green in Islamic tradition is ALWAYS linked to the Prophet Muhammad, and is therefore synonymous with Islam itself. It is used ubiquitously throughout the Islamic world, as well as in jihadi imagery, to indicate the Prophet specifically and Islam in general.”

Also, PLEASE pay CAREFUL attention to what Mousavi [their "green" candidate] answered in this Al Jazeera interview when asked about “wiping Israel off the map.” He said “Right from the beginning I objected to that phrase” [i.e., he does NOT object to THE CONCEPT!], and continues… “the only way out is to refer to the ‘true inhabitants of Palestine’,” [by which he means the "Palestinian" Arabs, which means he subscribes to the lie that Jews have no place in our G-d given Land].

Mousavi is just Ahmadinejad lite (at best).

They are fighting for their right to choose who will rule them, and I support that right. BUT, I am not doing so under any illusions that it will necessarily improve Iran’s behavior, at least not in the short run. It might even be more dangerous to have a more deceitful, but no less hateful, Iran to deal with, as NormanF quite correctly pointed out in a response to my comment.

The longer this goes on, the more radicalized agai...

2009-06-23T13:57:35.723-04:00

The longer this goes on, the more radicalized against the regime the protests are likely to become

Yes, true. But I really don't think this is about ...

2009-06-23T13:52:36.859-04:00

Yes, true. But I really don't think this is about Ahmadinejad or Mousavi. The election was the straw that broke the camel's back. The real issue is human rights violations and a desire for freedom from Islamic oppression.

Very interesting. Hopefully the world now realis...

2009-06-23T09:21:36.646-04:00

Very interesting.

Hopefully the world now realises how lethal a nuclear Iran could be. And of course, the more domestic problems Iran has to face, theoretically the less energy and funds it will have to spend on terrorism against Israel etc.

In a recent interview, Mousavi's wife stated that her husband would - if he won the election- open a dialogue with 'any nation except Israel'.

Mahmoud or Mousavi - they both hate Israel.

I'm with Martin. Let them kill each other off. ...

2009-06-23T08:28:24.963-04:00

I'm with Martin. Let them kill each other off.

As far as I'm concerned, it's one less muzlim to cheer and celebrate the death of a Jew.

So, let them die.

Wonderfully written and argued from both sides. Yo...

2009-06-23T03:21:09.341-04:00

Wonderfully written and argued from both sides. You already know my opinion on the matter:) I am supporting the young Iranians.

If they are victorious the fruits of the victory probably won't be for years but I am hopeful that this will victorious and change Iran.

Persians vs their Arab overlords. Who cares what ...

2009-06-22T23:57:25.733-04:00

Persians vs their Arab overlords.
Who cares what happens to any of them.
I say let's encourage fighting and fighting some more.years and years and years of it.
Keep all the Arabs fighting one another. It's a grand idea and far past time.